February Pub watch main meeting
Wayne - Police
Bob - City Centre Unit
Neeta - PBCRP
John - Ambulance
San Van - PCC
Ellie - Street Pastors
Jason - Pure
Tracey - Electric Circus
Peter - Bar 38
Nicki Humphrey - PCC
Richard Chalmers - PCC
John - ambulance service
- Safe space up and fully running now
- Thanks to venues who put the posters up, it did increase the intake at SS
- John sent out email so please reply about whether you want posters that could be more permanent.
- recap for those people who aren't aware what SS is about, it is a place for people to go if they are distressed, slightly injured, too drunk, need someone to talk to etc. Open every Friday and Saturday night from 10pm
- there will be a direct phone line to SS soon so when this is installed all venues will be given the phone number. For now use the PBCRP number.
Neeta - PBCRP
- looking at doing alcohol intervention course with the ambulance team, people who have been given the red cards for minor offences. It is currently run for people who have been arrested but this is a new idea to invite people who have been given the red cards, but also making sure it is the correct people who are invited on it. Hopefully up and running by next month
- need some more red cards or information on people causing issues in venues and sending them to Neeta. Please send her incident logs or red cards each week.
- CCTV are not a control for the radios, i.e. don't ask them to call the police for you, do it yourself. Turn the radio on during the days too when you don't have any door staff.
San Van - night time economy manager
- taxi marshalls update - contract is coming up for renewal at end of March. Need to decide how to progress to renew the contract. We would ask council to manage it again but they need 6 weeks to get people to tender. Everyone still happy with council to run it. However the council are not that keen to carry on running it. If venues close, the council are having to pay the deficit so it would have to be written into the contract to split the costs of the extra if others venues close down during the year. Perhaps bring this in line with Street Marshalls so the same team have extra duties as well as the taxi queue. Street Marshall idea is they get briefed on people who are barred from the area and deal with these people so our door staff don't have to. They would come in with the door staff briefing so they are aware of people who are banned, so we need to look at whether the meetings could be a bit later. Members brought up the fact that most venues have to have door staff from 8pm on their licence but Wayne has said that it would not be a problem if they are out of the venue for a short time and still in contact - it is for a good and worth while cause. All agreed that we should trial the meeting to now be at 8.30pm from Friday 17th (only for PBCRP members at the old safe space area - the Montgomery building)
- suggestion from Matt Debenham to get the late night takeaways to join the pub watch meeting and get involved. General consensus from the group is that they should be at the meetings. They get dealt with by the Police the same with regards to applying for extra hours etc so they should be involved in the same way. All agreed they should be in both parts of the meeting.
- Purple flag update - about changing the environment and bottom line policies. Lots of strategies that will affect us. More updates further down the line when there is more information
Wayne Fewings - Police
- 3 closed venues on GHW, just trying to find out if anyone knows anything about either V Bar, stadium or Drift in the City. It appears that Vodka Revs are now not interested in taking the Stadium bar site. If anyone hears or finds out anything please let the police know. Someone has shown an interest in the V Bar site.
- Carnage - went fairly well the last one but issues are pre loading of alcohol by the students. Having to police the event costs money, so the police will not be policing the next one. However responsibility is there to keep the standards up, opening SS and Managers ensuring no issues and they manage responsibly on that night and don't take advantage because the police aren't there. Next Carnage is the 4th March.
- door staff - we have responsibility for reminding our door staff about the handling of information with care and appropriately (i.e. from PBCRP) Also our door staff access to our CCTV and are not directly employed by us therefore they should not be looking at the venue CCTV. This is data protection and if we do watch it with the door staff for leanings it needs to be recorded.
- Brian has requested about Facebook bookings - it would be preferential that we get the names of the people who are in the party and not just Joe Bloggs plus 30, we get all 30 names. Bill said that everyone gets ID'd or refused for drunkenness anyway even if they are on guest lists so we don't see why this needs to be done, customers don't get straight in just because they say they are a guest list.
- Police have looked at and wanted to mention the suggestion of splitting the pub watch groups into GHW and GW. From the earlier meeting we all decided that we wanted to keep it as it is currently. Bill mentioned to Wayne about why we can't discuss GW problems in the current meetings even though we can discuss the GHW issues. Wayne has said that the main reasons is that there hasn't really been much incidents or concerns in GW as a collective but has been more venue specific. If there are more issues at GW now then it can be discussed in the one meeting. San explained that they don't get free access to the CCTV in GW so can't always pin point why there are issues or where they occur. We feel it would be counter productive to split up the pub watch group as we have worked hard to all work together.
- Data issues - there is a drop in violent crime over the city. However not in GHW area where there is actually an increase. More serious crime is reducing but more lower level crime is increasing. Keep on top of the work we are doing to reduce the issues and don't take our foot off the gas with this.
- GW issues - people drinking excessively then leaving the venues and going elsewhere. The numbers in GW of issues is growing. Putting on 4 More high visible patrols now until end of March. Early doors in GW then take over from the other officers in GHW.
Mal - mentioned about venues in GW that are pre drinking venues (restaurants but have bars) that don't come to pub watch. They won't be on the radar as having issues but customers will be drinking in there first then heading on out to other venues.
Perhaps other venues in GW who are in the pub watch could invite them to come along.
8th March next meeting 3pm at Tiger Tiger.
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